Tuesday February 24 | Bodies and Souls… or Spirited Bodies?
February 23, 2009 at 10:00 am | In Coming Up | 6 Comments
We’ll take a closer look at the relationship between theology and science. Dr. Nancy Murphy joins us to examine what human beings are made of- are we body and soul, or something else?
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Dr. Nancey Murphy – Professor, Fuller Theological Seminary and Author of Bodies and Souls, or Spirited Bodies?
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I remember a show on the Discovery Channel several years ago concerning how our brains operate and if we are “hard wired” for religion and spirituality. They claimed that the pathways of neural activity change dramatically when someone is meditating or praying deeply.
Maybe your guest could comment on that.
Comment by Van Durrett — February 24, 2009 #
We are not born with souls, but we can grow one through meditation, tai chi, yoga and other means. This soul will outlive our bodies, but will not live forever, unless this higher body creates yet higher bodies.
In the scheme of life, each layer is alternately static and dynamic.
Minerals are static, soil is dynamic, plants are static, wheat germ and other hybrids are dynamic, animals are static, humans are dynamic, angels are static, and so on. Unlike plants and animals, we are dynamic, like soil, or soul…and are thus complex and hard to pin down. The soul is this dynamic layer which we can grow and feed to the angels.
What’s wrong with this picture?
Comment by david — February 24, 2009 #
A general comment regarding this program and its timing:
I think it’s irresponsible for you, Mike, to have this show/discussion on at this time. Right now, with the economy so terrible, so many folks out of work, losing their homes and even pets, you put on a show that takes away the last thing we Christians have to hope for – an afterlife. What am I here for? What possible hope can I have to look forward to and hold dear to my heart so that I don’t give up? Why am I trying to be a good person? If I don’t have a soul – it doesn’t matter what we do or how we do it, now does it? Part of the Christian belief, as I’m sure you know is clinging on to the hope that by following the teachings of Christ, being good to one another, praying and keeping the faith that a part of Him resides within us and that our soul will go to heaven as a reward for our lifetime of effort, is what keeps some of us from ending our misery right now. “All for nothing” is not the thought in which I want to go out of this world with. Be careful Mike…for some of us – millions of us – this belief system is the only thing we have to cling to. Don’t take that away from us in addition to everything else; and we should all remember, that Nancey’s view is just HER view, her interpretation and conclusion. There will always be Nancey’s in the world, but His word still stands the test of time.
Comment by G. Zaremski — February 24, 2009 #
In response to G. Zaremski:
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I do not quite agree with the “irresponsibility” of the timing of this particular subject. I disagreed with (the first few minutes that I heard) with Dr Murphy in much of what she said and I do not think that many religious or spiritual people will be swayed much by her ideas. Yes, these are trying times for many people. Yes, larger numbers of people are turning to faith to help stabilize and bring purpose into their life. But I doubt many people (if any) will change their beliefs solely on what a theologian/philosopher says. Faith is forever.
Comment by Van Durrett — February 24, 2009 #
Of course I hasten to add that I do not spend much time amongst church-goers and other religious people so I am merely speculating.
Comment by Van Durrett — February 24, 2009 #
Mike,
Thanks for this show. Dr. Murphy articulated with clarity exactly what the Christian hope is for: the resurrection of the body, not the immortality of the soul. Mike, I hope you finally realized that the alternative is not immortality of the soul or no immortality at all. Mr. Zaremski, it would be helpful if when you parody Christian belief, you actually knew its content. To the caller who did not get your answer concerning the rich man and Lazarus: it’s a parable, not a factual geography of the afterlife.
Comment by Cornelius Brantley — February 25, 2009 #